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WARNING: The further text contains SPOILERS, so it's highly recommended to watch the movie "Sadako 3D" before reading this text!

„Sadako 3D" is the newest sequel of the Japanese „Ring" series. If it is seen by a person who doesn't know anything about the basic „Ring" story, the movie will be partially confusing to them. But someone who did watch the previous „Ring" movies will be even more confused if they haven't read the novels by Koji Suzuki, the writer who invented the basic „Ring" story. Understanding the movie „Sadako 3D" requires a high knowledge of the entire „Ring" universe, not only of the movies, but also of the novels, the skill of analysing and inductive reasoning, and even a bit of imagination, since Suzuki's novel „S", that this movie was based on, hasn't been translated from Japanese yet.

Although this movie follows Akane Ayukawa as the protagonist, the impeller of the story is Seiji Kashiwada. Although it was never clearly said in the movie, it makes us think that he was born with supernatural powers, which is why the society declared him a freak and abandoned him. We come to that conclusion based on three clear facts. The first fact is that in his cursed video, he mentions the revenge on the people who abandoned him. The second fact is that Akane Ayukawa was also born with supernatural powers, which is why she was bullied and abandoned by her classmates, which is why she almost committed suicide. Since it's obvious that Akane and Kashiwada were of more-or-less the same age, we can assume that the people around them had similar mentalities and that Kashiwada was also abandoned due to his supernatural powers. The third fact is that Kashiwada somehow (it was not directly explained how) managed to get in touch with the spirit of Sadako Yamamura and to make his own cursed video. Some watchers would say that this conclusion is wrong, that by mentioning people who abandoned him Kashiwada was actually referring to those people on the internet who talked his artwork down. But I think that what those people did to him was some kind of a trigger that made him decide to take a revenge. The fact that he had supernatural powers is undeniable, because otherwise he wouldn't be able to do everything he obviously did.

Holding a grudge against the entire human race, and wanting to take the revenge on those who abandoned him, Kashiwada wanted to exterminate the mankind. We can assume that one of his supernatural powers was communicating with spirits. With his extremely powerful grudge, similar to the grudge of Sadako Yamamura, he attracted her spirit and she got in contact with him. That's how he found out about her existence. He found out that she would be capable of exterminating the mankind, so he started abducting girls with long black hair, dressing them in white night dresses and throwing them in the same well where Sadako had died. But, in order to come back to life, Sadako needed a medium, a special person with particular supernatural powers. In order to find that medium, Sadako needs to be able to manifest herself to random people, and for that she needs a video. Here comes the problem that may confuse all the fans of „Ring" movies, if they haven't read Suzuki's novels.

The first „Ring" movie had two sequels, „Spiral" and „Ring 2", and those two contradict each other. It's obvious that „Sadako 3D" is a sequel to „Spiral", not to „Ring 2". We know that because here we have Takanori Ando, the son of Mitsuo Ando who was the protagonist of „Spiral". But here comes the question, what happened to the famous cursed videotape? Why can't Sadako manifest herself to people via that tape? The answer is contained in Suzuki's novel „Loop" and the story „Happy Birthday", although none of those two has been adapted into a movie. „Sadako 3D" nowhere mentions Ryuji Takayama, a very important character in those two stories. Takayama is crucial for the understanding of this movie. In „Loop", we find out that the entire story of the novels „Ring" and „Spiral", just like all the „Ring" movies, happened in a virtual reality named Loop. After dying in Loop, as a victim of the deadly videotape, Ryuji Takayama was cloned by a scientist in the real world (out of Loop). He was reborn as a new child named Kaoru Futami, and he lived his first 20 years without knowing anything about his past life in the virtual reality. But under particular circumstances, Kaoru finds out about Loop and about the deceased Takayama whose genes are identical to his own ones. To save the world from an apocalyptic virus that he accidentally brought with himself to the real world, Kaoru is forced to return to Loop as Ryuji Takayama. After his return, he finds a vaccine for the so called Ring Virus, which is spontaneously generated in the people who watch the cursed video and die of that virus seven days later. As the vaccine is discovered, the videotape becomes harmless. Furthermore, Takayama manages to produce a virus that attacks Sadako and her clones (which are well explained in the novel and the movie „Spiral"). But since he was also reborn in Loop (helped by the people from the real world) from Sadako's womb, Takayama is also destroyed by his own virus.

But Seiji Kashiwada seems to be Sadako's new chance to come back to life. Since she can't manifest herself to the people via her old cursed video, she makes a deal with him. Since his cursed video shows his own death, before which he mentions revenge, we find out that he cared about the revenge more than about his own life, so he was willing to sacrifice himself. In the movie we clearly see that he filmed the video with his iPhone and that the person who killed him was Sadako Yamamura. From the earlier movies we know that the victims of Sadako's tape see Sadako emerging out of a screen before they die, if there is a screen around. When the police inspector Koiso studies the room where Kashiwada's death was filmed, he says that the room seems to be fake, set precisely for filming that video, that it didn't exist in that same form earlier and that there is something missing in the room. What is missing? Technological devices like a TV set or any other device with a graphic screen, THAT is missing. In the moment of Kashiwada's death, the only device with a graphic screen was his own iPhone. According to those facts, we can assume that Kashiwada watched Sadako's old cursed video and didn't take the vaccine against the Ring Virus. Since he had a deal with Sadako's spirit, he could have known the exact moment when he was going to die. Seven days later, knowing it was the moment of his death, he was sitting in that room where the only device with a screen was his iPhone. That is why Sadako emerged out of his iPhone, which was filming a video at that moment. The iPhone filmed the moment of Kashiwada's death, and the recording was broadcasted live on the website of Nico Animations. The movie lets us know that Kashiwada was very intelligent, so it's possible that he hacked the website to enable the livestream for his own video. Since the iPhone filmed Sadako's manifestation from itself, just like it filmed Kashiwada's death caused by it, that video was cursed. But although the video, after being broadcasted live, was deleted from the website, due to it's paranormal origin it had it's own will and the ability of travelling through the internet. So, as we see in the movie, the video was showing itself to randomly chosen people who were online in that moment. If the video shows itself to a person who is not the medium seeked by Sadako, the person is killed and their death looks like a suicide.

But the movie makes us think that Sadako and Kashiwada actually had different intentions, or at least a different perception of the idea of Sadako's resurrection. In the room where Kashiwada's death was filmed, officer Koiso discovers a picture of a monstrous Sadako, with long spider-like legs. Not long afterwards, in presence of the person who IS the medium seeked by Sadako, the corpses of the girls thrown by Kashiwada into the well are transformed into monsters like the one discovered in Kashiwada's death room. According to all those facts, we inductively come to two conclusions. The first one is that Kashiwada, by mentioning the resurrection of Sadako, was actually referring to those monstrous creatures that can exterminate the mankind. The second conclusion is that one of Kashiwada's supernatural powers was thoughtography (which is how he „painted" the monstrous Sadako on the wall), the same power that Sadako Yamamura had.

We have deduced that, in order to bring those monsters to life, the medium person was needed to come close to the well. As he was able to communicate with Sadako's spirit, Kashiwada was aware of that fact. It was obviously clear to him that the medium person will get close to the well only if he/she feels it necessary to INVESTIGATE. So, he needed his death to become the object of an investigation. That's why, in agreement with him, Sadako made his body disappear. We saw a scene where Sadako physically sucks Takanori Ando into a screen. According to that, we can assume that she also sucked Kashiwada's body into his iPhone. That is how Kashiwada's death became an intriguing object of an investigation, which was what, as we have deduced, Kashiwada wanted. Let's assume that, after everything what happened, Sadako had a physical control over that iPhone. Influenced by her will, the iPhone was moved to the house where Sadako had grown up, next to the well.

The medium that Sadako was looking for is no more or less than the protagonist of the movie, Akane Ayukawa. As we know from the movie, Akane was also born with supernatural powers. As she was in the right place at the right time, when Sadako tried to kill Lisa Kitayama, a student who had previously watched Kashiwada's cursed video, Sadako recognizes Akane as her medium and she starts to attack her from everywhere. In one scene we clearly see that Sadako tries to merge herself with Akane's body, after Akane finds Kashiwada's iPhone and gets sucked inside. That makes us deduce that Sadako wanted to make Akane find that iPhone, which became the core of her power after Kashiwada's death. In order to make Akane find the iPhone, Sadako abducts Akane's boyfriend Takanori, and he is imprisoned in Kashiwada's iPhone. Soon afterwards, Akane encounters Takanori's friend Enoki, who laughs at her and says that Takanori is going to die if she doesn't look for him. As in one moment Enoki appears deformed, we realise that he is actually a ghost, that he was also killed by Kashiwada's video, and that Sadako used him as a trap, to make Akane find her house, and the iPhone. With the officer Koiso, Akane visits that house. As she is the medium that Sadako was looking for, when she comes close to the well, the dead girls are transformed into living monsters that start to climb out of the well. The first one of those monsters kills the officer immediately. Trying to escape from them, Akane enters the house. When her fear becomes strong enough, her scream (from earlier we know that her scream can be destructive in a critical moment) disintegrates all the monsters. But then she finds Kashiwada's iPhone and Sadako sucks her in. As she has her medium and considers her resurrection a fact, she accepts to set Takanori free. She probably did it to calm Akane's strong negative emotions down, to make it easier for herself to possess Akane's body. But, after Sadako merges with her body, Akane's soul is struggling to resist and the two of them fight inside the body. Meanwhile, the freed Takanori wakes up out of the iPhone and he hears Akane's scream, so he smashes the iPhone with a rock. Akane is set free.

But there are some more questions that can bother the watchers. First question: What happened to the resort that was built above the well, as we saw in the first „Ring" movie? Why is it not there anymore? The answer: in the novel/movie „Spiral", Asakawa's journal (containing the information of all his investigations) was published as a novel, so many people found out what was there under the resort, so they didn't want to go there. That is why the resort became useless and it was taken down, but probably no one wanted to mess up with the well, so it was left there. It's quite obvious that no one was visiting that place. Otherwise, Kashiwada surely wouldn't dare to go there so often to throw women down the well. Second question: What's the point of the butterflies? The answer: As we see those butterflies in Sadako's house, and in the well too, we deduce that the forest around the well is their natural habitat. Kashiwada probably saw many of those butterflies while he was visiting that place, sewing the white dresses there, putting them on girls and throwing the girls down the well. In the scene when the officer Koiso visits Kashiwada's death room and touches the wallpaper, the wallpaper is (influenced by Kashiwada's spirit) disintegrated into a bunch of butterflies that fly away, revealing the thoughtograph of a monstrous Sadako. As we already know, Kashiwada's intention was to create those monsters to exterminate the mankind. But independently of his intentions, Sadako had her own plan, the plan of coming back to life in the body of Akane Ayukawa, her medium. Kashiwada didn't know that the medium was going to be a person whose scream can destroy all his monsters. But Sadako did notice that, so she didn't interfere with Kashiwada's plan. Third question: Why did the officer Koiso see Kashiwada's spirit who told him that Sadako was completely resurrected, even before it really happened? The answer: he said that because he knew that Sadako found her medium, who will accidentally bring his monsters to life when she gets close to the well. As Takanori was abducted, Kashiwada knew that Akane was going to look for him, and that it would be easier for her to find the well if she accompanies the officer Koiso, which is why he showed himself to the officer. Fourth question: Why do all those monster transform into a bunch of butterflies after their death? The answer: As Kashiwada had supernatural powers and an extremely powerful rage, we assume that a lot of his negative energy was left in the well, which he was visiting very often to throw the girls into it. That negative energy contained his thoughts about the butterflies, which were obviously common there and thus attracted his attention somehow (maybe he was annoyed by them, and the annoyance increased his negative energy). It was similar with Sadako. After she died in that well, her negative energy was left there, and that negative energy contained her thoughts which were in a particular moment projected onto the videotape. In the presence of Akane as the medium, Kashiwada's negative energy brought the corpses to life in that monstrous form. After their destruction, the monsters were disintegrated into no more or less than Kashiwada's thoughts that influenced their formation, thus the butterflies. That plenty of butterflies was probably attracting his attention whenever he would visit that place to throw a girl into the well. Last question: What did Kashiwada's landlady mean when she said:"Isn't it all artificial?"? The answer: She was referring to the fact that they all lived in Loop, which is a virtual reality. How did she know that? In Suzuki's novels we find out that Sadako personally knew Ryuji Takayama, who was brought back to Loop from the real world. So, Sadako learned about the virtuality of her world from Takayama, and in some occasion her spirit told Kashiwada about that. In the movie, the landlady says that she had some nice conversations with Kashiwada, she actually liked him. Obviously, Kashiwada told her about Loop. She probably didn't take it seriously, but she found that theory quite amusing and interesting, which is why she was saying that.

According to this entire text, we find out that the movie „Sadako 3D", although it apparently misfits the rest of the „Ring" universe, can be explained in terms acceptable for the „Ring" stories. Anyway, the fact that the movie requires such a detailed analysis and the knowledge of the stories (which weren't adapted into movies) to be understood, is a downside to it. But after all, we are waiting for the translation of Suzuki's novel „S", that might eventually confirm or deny this theory.
Have you watched the movie "Sadako 3D" (the newest sequel of the Japanese "Ring" (Ringu) series, from 2012), and you did not quite understand it? This text will give you all the answers! It's an analysis I did after watching the movie two times. Otherwise, I'm a big fan of the entire "Ring" universe, and I've read the novels "Ring", "Spiral", "Loop" and "Birthday" by Koji Suzuki, which is how I managed to find the answers to all the questions.

If you have some more questions, or some counterargument to my theory, feel free to leave it in the comments! ;)
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:iconandroaspie:
I want really thank you for your brilliant analysis of Sadako 3D and for confirming that S is a real book.  I thought it was either fictitious or something that was never actually published.

I first saw Ringu around 2005 on a bootleg Malaysian VCD with really poorly-translated subtitles, and I didn't know about the TV set ending, so when it came, it scared the shit out of me.  I saw Ring 2 and thought it was a big bunch of nothing, but Rasen really freaked me out: instead of visceral horror, we had scientific psychological horror with an end-of-the-world angle.  I was really impressed with the scope of the film and its imagination, but found it hard to understand.

I then saw Ring 0 and liked the sympathetic depiction of Sadako, but I thought the doppelganger angle was a bit odd.   I rather liked the Korean Ring Virus, which combined Ringu and Rasen (thankfully not Ringu 2, though).

Around 2009, I read Ringu, then Spiral, then Loop, then Birthday, and was really struck by the romantic ending to Birthday.  I am 55 years old, so I guess I'm getting more sentimental as time goes by.  I then read Dark Water and Paradise, and watched the original versions of Dark Water and The Grudge.  Soon after this, I watched the two American Ring movies for the first time.  I thought the first was okay, but the second was too much like the Japanese filmed version of Dark Water.  What I really liked was the short film Rings, even though it does not fit the causative continuity of the book nor any of the films, Japanese, Korean or American.  I just thought it was cool, provocative, and extremely well done.  It reminded me of the underrated 7th Hellraiser film, Hellraiser: Deader (the best one since the 2nd), which came out the same year.  

A couple of years later, I read Suzuki's Promenade of the Gods, which has a minor character from the book version of The Ring in it, and found it to be a shaggy dog story that left me with a feeling of being ripped off in a worse way than the explanation of The Loop originally did.

I first saw Sadako 3D in a really badly-fan-subtitled form on YouTube, but then bought the American-issued DVD and watched the film again.  I liked it more when I could understand all the dialogue.

When I saw Insidious and Insidous 2, I thought the plotting was brilliant, and they reminded me a bit of the Ring books as far as how well-thought-out they are.

I bought Suzuki's Edge, but haven't read it yet.  Suzuki's long-delayed Death and the Flower is due to be released at the end of this coming April.  Why hasn't S been translated into English?  Does Suzuki's stateside publisher (Vertical) think it's got low saleability?

A few months ago, I bought a Hello Kitty Sadako magnet hook, so yeah, I'm a real Ring nerd (and a Hello Kitty nerd, too, I guess).  I have the Denis Meikle book The Ring Companion, but have put off reading it because I've seen so few  of the he other J horror films referenced in the book.

But back to your analysis of Sadako 3D.  Your theory of the story being based on the book series instead of any of the films makes a lot of sense.  Whether you're on target about anything in S is unknown by anyone who doesn't read Japanese, but the fact that Suzuki wrote the script for Sadako 3D makes me think that you might well be right about a lot of your conclusions.  Even if you're not, though, it was a mindblowing read, because so much of it seemed to make sense.  It certainly clarifies a lot of the film that hadn't really made sense to me before.  Well done!

I've looked for reviews of Sadako 3D 2 online, but have found very little.
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:iconbelindacarlislefan:
Hello! At first, sorry for not replying to your comment earlier! Thank you very much for liking my analysis of "Sadako 3D", I really appreciate your comment very much! I'm planning to update this essay soon, after I finally get to watch "Sadako 3D 2", which might change some parts of my theory.

Wow, so if I understood you right, seems like "Ring" attracted you to some more Asian horror and I think it's cool. I liked Japanese "Ring" movies very much, Suzuki's novel cycle too, but I haven't read his other novels (unrelated to "Ring") yet (I'm a huge "Ring" fan), though I may read more of his work in the near future ;) I loved Suzuki's novels, but I was disappointed by Takayama's second death in "Birthday". Though, I read that he appears in "S" and probably in "Tide" (the next novel, it's most likely a sequel to "S"), so there is still hope ^^ 

tell me please, which character from "Ring" novels appears in "Promenade of the Gods"?

speaking of "Ringu 0", when you mention the doppleganger angle, are you referring to the good adult and evil child Sadako?

speaking of the Korean "The Ring Virus", sorry I wasn't fascinated with that one so much, especially because of the background music. I found it pretty misfitting a horror movie that it's meant to be. No offense ;) 

speaking of "Rasen" and "Ringu 2", I prefer "Rasen" too (although it didn't scare me, I loved the unexpected happy ending of Takanori and Takayama coming back to life), but I didn't find "Ringu 2" bad either. :) 

I've watched the entire "Ju-On" and "The Grudge" franchise (except the "White Ghost" and "Black Ghost" movies, those without Kayako, but I'm planning to watch those one soon). I liked it, but I prefer "Ring(u)" much more. I haven't watched the Japanese version of "Dark Water" yet, but it's on my list too. I've watched the American one, it wasn't bad. ;) 

speaking of "Hellraiser", sorry I haven't watched that one, so I can't really compare it to "The Ring", but I totally love the American "The Ring" series, both "The Ring" and "The Ring twO", and the short movie "Rngs" ;) 
You also mentioned "Insidious", thank you for the recommendation, I think I'm going to watch that one soon! ;) 

speaking of "Sadako 3D", I didn't watch it until I received it on DVD, so I watched it with subtitles. The subtitles weren't very good at some points, but fortunately I was able to understand it. :D

I don't know why they haven't translated "S" and "Tide" to English yet :( I do hope they are going to do it, I really want to read those novels!!

wow you have some Hello Kitty Sadako stuff, that's awesome! :D I'm planning to get at least one of those things... though, they are kinda expensive, at least on eBay... ^^; oh and yes, I'm a huge Ring nerd too, so we understand each other about that!! :D

I have Denis Meikle's "The Ring Companion" too, I've read the majority of it, but not all, at least not yet. I may finish reading it someday... I also have a book called "The Scary Screen: Media Anxiety in The Ring" by Kristen Lacefield, haven't read it yet. And I also have one called "Krugovi i kletve" (in English: "Rings and Grudges") by a Serbian writer Dragan Jovićević. I did read that one. 

Once again thank you very much for reading and liking my analysis of "Sadako 3D" ;) I really appreciate your comment, and the fact that several people have read it and found it making some sense proves that it was worth writing it, and that's my biggest prize for it. ;) I don't know about "S", it might blow my entire theory up, but until we get a chance to read the English version on it, I can't really say about that novel much, I haven't read it either. :( 

I'm looking forward to "Sadako 3D 2", I'm planning to watch it with some friends for the first time and organize a whole little event for that occasion :) I haven't tried to read much reviews, I don't want to spoil the movie for myself :)

once again thanks for your nice comment, and greetings from Croatia ;)
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Hello there,
I am Battler/OBattler a.k.a. OBrasilo. I used to run a Ring-related forum back in 2005, the Ring of Lightning Forum. The reboot of the forum is currently in the making.
In any case, I became a Ring fan back in 2005 and have since watched about all I could (except for Sadako 3D and Rasen TV - and no, I don't mind spoilers at all, I actually enjoy them, I read lots of spoilers about the novel before the novel itself and it did not ruin it at all for me) and read most of it too (except for the original 1995 Ring manga, the Ring 2 and Ring 0 mangas, and the "S" book) - I even have the Ring Radio Drama from 1996 in .MP3 format, provided by a friend of mine, though I'd need someone with a better knowledge of Japanese to listen to it before I can make heads and tails. Though I've managed to understand some of it - the main character is apparently Asakawa Kaoru, a radio DJ, and he investigates the cursed tape (an AUDIO tape in this version) with his female assistant Shimosawa who seems to be a schoolgirl.
In any case, the Rasen explanation for Sadako 3D has a weak point too - the vaccine developed in Loop wouldn't last forever, as all viruses mutate - just like how the virus previously mutated from being cured by copying the tape and showing it to someone else to a much worse form. Eventually, a new form of the virus would appear, making the vaccine useless. I can see it mutate like that in 13 years - simply recording a TV commercial over the final part of the final written message was enough to cause the first mutation (I forgot how that was explained for the movie version of the cursed video which had neither a written message, nor a commercial at the end), and something similar can cause a second one (and a lot of real-life viruses, such as the influenza series, mutate on a virtually yearly basis).
But let's think of the end of the Ring novel, where the virus-like nature of the "curse" is already revealed and it is explained a virus' main desire is to reproduce - now let's apply that here: the old strain of the ring virus has become harmless to humanity, basically condemning the virus to extinction. Now, Kashiwada by making his own cursed video with Sadako's help, turned Sadako's Ring virus into a new one, which is, using Rasen's proportions of 7:3, 7 parts the original Ring virus and 3 parts Kashiwada's DNA, similar to how Sadako's Ring virus was 7 parts smallpox and 3 parts Sadako's DNA.
Also there's a possibility that there was a mutation of Sadako's own strain but on a limited scale, and that those imperfect Sadako's were literally that - imperfect Sadako clones made by the limited mutated Sadako strain rather than the original one. The old vaccine is useless but the mutation makes them imperfect, thus not useful for Sadako's plans either.
But this is just speculation, anyway.
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:iconbelindacarlislefan:
wow man, I really like your theories!

Sorry for not having replied earlier, I haven't been here for a while. So you're going to reboot your Ring fan forum? That sounds awesome, how's it going? :)
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Blue-Fishies Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm going to be one of those annoying nature nerds and just say that the "butterflies" in the film are not butterflies at all. They are a species of Moth called Luna Moths, which are not native to Japan. So that leads me to believe that there was a reason as to why the film makers picked this specific type of Moth to be used, unfortunately I'm not all that familiar with the Ring series (other than the films, I've only seen Ring 1, 2 and 0) so I have no idea what type of symbolism it would mean, but it most certainly must of been something that Seiji Kashiwada saw often for it to become such an interesting part of the film.
Also not sure if the fake Sadako's turned into butterflies or not, they most certainly don't turn into the Luna Moths, but I can't pin-point what bug it is cause its just too hard to for me to freeze frame on one of the little suckers.

I gotta say though, that this kind of helped clear up somethings for me, I watched the film without any subtitles so I had to go with what rough Japanese I can understand, so having a read of this cleared up a bugger load of the plot for me, especially small stuff like why the fake Sadako's looked the way they did, and to begin with why there were fake Sadako's.
Interesting movie, not the same impact as the old Ring films had though, but they most certainly tried to move it into a more modern direction to appeal again to the young and hip teenagers of today who enjoy horror.
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:iconbelindacarlislefan:
hey, I'm sorry for being so late with the answer! At first, thank you a lot for spending your time on reading my work, I really appreciate it, and I'm glad that it made the movie more clear to you! ;)

speaking of the butterflies/moths... so, you think those insects shown in the movie are Luna Moths, but you think that the ones that appear when Akane destroys a Sadako monster are not Luna Moths, but some other insects? why do you think they are not the same?

otherwise, I agree... this movie may not be as scary as the earlier "Ring" movies, but I do think it's underrated, it's definitely not THAT bad as the critics say...
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Blue-Fishies Feb 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No no that's perfectly fine! I'm just grateful I got to get a better understanding of the movie.
Well first off the bugs that appear when the Sadako monster was destroyed by Akane did not have the characteristically bright greenish tint that the Luna Moths have, looking at a blurry freeze frame of one of the bugs they seem to appear almost brown/black looking, but on looking over these scenes again and again, they might indeed be moths but not the Luna Moths.
It's honestly very hard to tell, they have animated the bugs/moths to move so quickly in such a short set of frames that to pinpoint what they look like is pretty hard and I'd have to use a software that allows me to see it all frame by frame (but that would require me to convert the entire movie file and I am not that dedicated in finding out haha.

Hmm I think the reason the critics say it wasn't as good a film is because a lot of us still remember what the old Ring movies were like, it's hard to compare to something that really made a bench mark in horror history (along with such movies as the Grudge), even I think that this new one doesn't have that special something that terrified me when I watched the Jap and Eng Ring movies, I guess that they based the movie very much on "supernatural powers" that might have made people say "what the hell" a bit. But overall it wasn't that bad. I've seen much much worse horror movies that have literally put me to sleep.
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:iconbelindacarlislefan:
I'm really glad to know that my work helped someone and that someone appreciates it :) I did an effort to develop that entire theory, and I've been thinking of expanding it a little...

speaking of the Luna Moths, could you please make some screenshots that prove that those bugs that appear when Akane destroys a Sadako monster are not the same as the ones that appear in other parts of the movie? I'd be very grateful if you could show me that :)

speaking of other movies... generally, I'm not a big fan of horror movies, the only horror story I really like is "The Ring" (and it's alternative versions and sequels). Since many people compare it to "The Grudge", I also watched that one, but I didn't like it. It's too morbid and repetitive for me. Yeah, it's creepy and I know that's the point of horror movies, but it doesn't have a well developed story like "The Ring", so I didn't like it. Though, I do like Kayako as the character, but I think they didn't dedicate enough time to her personality and her backstory, but much more to her repetitive murders, which is what ruined the entire thing for me...
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Blue-Fishies Feb 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'll give it a try. I've been fairly busy with a lot of stuff both personal and related to Uni, but I'll try and get the program downloaded and see if I can get it all working, if I can't I'll have to get back to you on whether or not I could get it to work.

Hmmm I'm a pretty big horror watcher. I used to get really easily scared when I was younger and the grudge terrified me to no end, but to overcome my fear of watching horror movies I decided to try and watch them as often as I could, as a result now I don't mind horror movies and I'm not so scared afterwards. :)
Kayako....while I very interesting ghost and has an interesting back story, I can't help but find the Grudge movies fairly..dull? As you said it's very repetitive in the sense that the victim runs, Kayako follows, then she brutally murders them. Rinse and repeat.
I think the atmosphere of the Grudge movies though is really well done, because most of the scares for me occurred from having silence then turning around and Kayako would be there.
At the end of the day though, these are horror movies, and going too far into the back story of the ghost eats up film time that could be used to "scare" the audience which is the intention and genre of a horror movie.
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:iconbelindacarlislefan:
hey, sorry for taking this long to answer!

It's OK, give me those screenshots when you can ;) it's not urgent :)

I'm glad you fought your fear away, it was very similar with me. I could tell you more about it if we could talk privately (mail, Facebook chat, or something like that), because there are some things that I wouldn't like to say in public.

yeah, that's what ruined "The Grudge" for me, that repetitiveness... ^^;

so, would you mind to talk to me via Facebook, for example? :) if you want, you can find me here: [link]
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